In reading around the internet, I've come across a few references to Anakin and Padme's romance as being a little creepy.
I'm not sure I'd use "creepy" as the right word, but it was definitely "off".
I can't for the life of me figure out what she saw in him. Sure, he was cute in a beach-boy sort of way, Michelle68 can appreciate that, and flirtatious and she probably liked the attention he paid to her. She was smart enough to see that he was hot for her.
But in many other ways she was not so smart. He was younger than her, and way more immature, in spite of being a Jedi he was petty and jealous, not to mention selfish.
And after his temper tantrum in the garage on Tatooine, and the admission that he'd killed all the Tuskens, the thought of "run, Padme, run" as Master Mina would say comes to mind.
I know some girls like bad boys, but "I happen to like nice men".
I suppose she might have felt motherly towards him. Now that is creepy. And he seems to like her attentions, since he has to run to her and be placated whenever he's upset, which seems to be all the time in ROTS.
George, I love you dearly, but you took the greatest villain of all time, or as Ewan says "everyone's favorite baddie" and turned him into a wimp.
I guess you wanted us to feel sorry for him, but you over did it! I would much have preferred a grown up, mature, heroic man. It would have made his fall all that much more tragic.
Instead I wanted to slap him and tell him to act like a Jedi, or at least like a man.
But then, I happen to like nice men!
24 comments:
Leia's Mother
Daughter of Naboo
date Posted: May 31, 2009 7:44 PM
I must say that I never saw it that way. I agree that the Padme's initial attraction to Anakin is a little unclear, but I suppose that he was unlike anyone she'd met before. The tormented soul part was maybe part of it too, she wanted to help him.
I never saw Anakin as wimpy or immature, I saw him as conflicted and tormented. Perhaps, he is a little immature in Clones but I thought he was pretty grown up in ROTS - trying very hard to be a good Jedi. For example, he didn't want to kill Dooku because it wasn't the way of the Jedi.
Willie Makeit
date Posted: May 31, 2009 8:19 PM
George, I love you dearly, but you took the greatest villain of all time, or as Ewan says "everyone's favorite baddie" and turned him into a wimp.
Ain't that the truth! :D He was quite a disappointment.
The Viridian Saber (Qui-Gon Reborn)
Virtual Unrealities (A victim of Order 66.)
date Posted: May 31, 2009 8:50 PM
I'm not sure I'd use "creepy" as the right word, but it was definitely "off".
How about "iffy"? That sounds like a good compromise. ;)
But in many other ways she was not so smart. He was younger than her, and way more immature, in spite of being a Jedi he was petty and jealous, not to mention selfish.
The fact that she married him says something about her maturity, too, doesn't it?
By the Force, when I first saw "Leia's Mother's" comments, I thought she was Master Mina and freaked out. Or that Master Mina had freaked out. :^O
Gidrea Lightsky
The Galaxy According to Gidrea
date Posted: May 31, 2009 10:19 PM
He was pretty grown up in ROTS
running to Padme every time the council wouldn't let him play in any Jedi games...
How about "iffy"?
I like it! That and "dubious"
The fact that she married him says something about her maturity, too, doesn't it?
Well, earlier you think she's smarter than that!
Gidrea Lightsky
The Galaxy According to Gidrea
date Posted: May 31, 2009 10:20 PM
Or that Master Mina had freaked out.
If she ever goes off that particular deep end, I will send you to her house to save her soul!
The Viridian Saber
Virtual Unrealities (A victim of Order 66.)
date Posted: May 31, 2009 11:05 PM
I like it! That and "dubious"
Now you're speaking my language! ;)
Well, earlier you think she's smarter than that!
Brains and maturity are two separate things. Luckily, I have both. :p
If she ever goes off that particular deep end, I will send you to her house to save her soul!
And I will go willingly!!
PrincessAngel39
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 3:50 AM
I think it is not so rare that Padmé f alls in love with him, IMO. First of all, Padmé did't have a lot of social life where she could meet people of her age, she was too busy for that, being first a queen and later a senator. Secondly, he was a handsome, overgifted boy, a galactic hero. She had known him as a boy, so she never expected him to be too mature. And, remember, he was completely selflessness, deeply caring about all he loved. She could not know that his immaturity, together with a wrong interpretation of this love for the others, would lead him, with Palpy's inotorious cooperation, to become what he did.
Gidrea Lightsky
The Galaxy According to Gidrea
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 7:28 AM
And, remember, he was completely selflessness, deeply caring about all he loved
Only because of himself! "I won't lose you the way I lost my mother" and "I can't live without her" testify to that. And he wasn't a galactic hero when she married him.
You'd think she'd have married a politician....ewww....
Ain't that the truth! :D He was quite a disappointment.
Yes, I'd envisioned someone a little older, a little more heroic as I and others have often said. Maybe someone who'd suffered by some war trauma. He was OK, I just think the character could have been better.
PrincessAngel39
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 8:00 AM
Only because of himself! "I won't lose you the way I lost my mother" and "I can't live without her
I mean before this. He offered himself to run the podrace for Qui-gon and Padme in Ep I, he saved Obi-Wan from the buzz droids and afterwards when he was unconscious, he tried to save even the clone pilots .... of course he tried to save his mother .... Perhaps he was selfish because he could not live without his beloved ones, but for instance he did not love the clone pilots .... Shmi says so to Qui-Gon, she says that he gives without expectiing any reward ... I think that if Palpy had not twisted his mind or Qui-Gon had lived, he would not have probably become Darth Vader...
Gidrea Lightsky
The Galaxy According to Gidrea
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 8:32 AM
This whole labeling of Anakin as a "bad boy" type to be avoided at all costs seems ridiculous to me.
If you're attracted to Bad Boys, then I see where there's a potential. But I like real men. I wanted to see Anakin Skywalker as a hero, not a pathetic loser, and that's how he comes across to me.
I get the feeling that you have some one-dimensional view of Anakin . . .
You are correct, I don't like him, he was the biggest disappointment of the PT for me.
Gidrea Lightsky
The Galaxy According to Gidrea
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 8:33 AM
think that if Palpy had not twisted his mind or Qui-Gon had lived, he would not have probably become Darth Vader...
Oh yes, I blame Palpy for his manipulation! I just think it would have been more tragic if he'd been a strong man instead of a whiner.
starwarsfan_84
Some Nerd's Opinion
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 1:01 PM
Well, Luke was an immature whiner too. Both of their personalities were similar. I find Anakin's immaturity appropriate as a mirror to Luke's. The difference is that Luke chose good and "grew up" but Anakin didn't, thus leading him to the Dark Side.
Gidrea Lightsky
The Galaxy According to Gidrea
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 1:12 PM
Except Luke was an inexpeirenced, unhappy farmboy, whereas Anakin was a Jedi Knight. He should have been more mature. I blame George, LOL
Jedi Master Mina
Another Galaxy, another time
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 1:18 PM
I know some girls like bad boys, but "I happen to like nice men".
Hey, didn't I do a blog about liking nice men. :^O
I get the feeling that you have some one-dimensional view of Anakin . . .
You are correct, I don't like him, he was the biggest disappointment of the PT for me.
That's an understatement...I've been using that line a lot lately. :^O
Anakin was a big disappointment. As you've stated, the fall would have been much more tragic and captivating if GL had made Anakin grown up, mature and heroic. I think that is why GL is doing the Clone Wars, so we get more of a character build up of Anakin.
By the Force, when I first saw "Leia's Mother's" comments, I thought she was Master Mina and freaked out. Or that Master Mina had freaked out.
If she ever goes off that particular deep end, I will send you to her house to save her soul!
And I will go willingly!!
Oh God, oh God I think I'm going to die...This alone is enough to make me change my Avatar. :^O
I can't for the life of me figure out what she saw in him.... he's good in bed. :^O
She was smart enough to see that he was hot for her....in bed. :^O
But then, I happen to like nice men!...in bed. :^O
Well, Luke was an immature whiner too.... He may be a whiner and immature, but he sure gives GREAT hugs and smells real good...in bed...(just kidding on the bed part, but don't think I can't dream)..:^O
Doesn't the sentences just roll off the tongue when you add to the phrase..."in bed" at the end?!?!?!...LMAO :^O
There that's better...nice pretty new Avatar...LMAO
Gidrea Lightsky
The Galaxy According to Gidrea
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 1:37 PM
Hey, didn't I do a blog about liking nice men.
Among others, wouldn't be the first time I followed you somewhere.
I think that is why GL is doing the Clone Wars, so we get more of a character build up of Anakin.
I'm liking him a little more in Clone Wars, he's a little bit more manly!
Oh God, oh God I think I'm going to die...
We'll save you!!!!!!!!
Doesn't the sentences just roll off the tongue when you add to the phrase..."in bed" at the end?!?!?!...LMAO
And here I thought that only worked with fortune cookies! I like yours better!
But you really have to stop teasing us and tell us what he REALLY smells like. I'm betting it's not like a moisture farmer at sunset... :D
There that's better...nice pretty new Avatar...LMAO
Meesa likey... you ARE the QUEEN!
Jedi Master Mina
Another Galaxy, another time
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 4:35 PM
I'm liking him a little more in Clone Wars, he's a little bit more manly!
No only is he manly in the Clone Wars, but he is actually mature and wise in his teachings. Kind of reminds me of another Skywalker....
Oh Oh Oh Oh...what a great title for a possible future blog: Another Skywalker or There is Another. :^O
Meesa likey... you ARE the QUEEN!
I figured NO ONE will pick that Avatar. :D
The Viridian Saber
Virtual Unrealities (A victim of Order 66.)
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 7:49 PM
I'm liking him a little more in Clone Wars, he's a little bit more manly!
Yeah, and he's actually funny, too. But, of course, Ahsoka's cooler. ;
Doesn't the sentences just roll off the tongue when you add to the phrase..."in bed" at the end?!?!?!...LMAO
We all know where your mind is...:^O
We'll save you!!!!!!!!
Don't die!!!!
But you really have to stop teasing us and tell us what he REALLY smells like. I'm betting it's not like a moisture farmer at sunset...
Yes, hurry up and tell us!! I'm dying to know. :O
However good he smells, I bet he doesn't smell as good as Qui-Gon...Mmmmm...:x :x
Gidrea Lightsky
The Galaxy According to Gidrea
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 9:04 PM
No only is he manly in the Clone Wars, but he is actually mature and wise in his teachings. Kind of reminds me of another Skywalker....
Maybe he's better when he's not around Padme. No one to run to. She's an enabler! Or being away makes him think with the proper brain.
I figured NO ONE will pick that Avatar.
It looks like a headache!
Willie Makeit
date Posted: Jun 01, 2009 10:18 PM
Or being away makes him think with the proper brain.
:p There needs to be a snorting Yodacon! :^O
The Stooge
Star Wars Joke-A-Day
date Posted: Jun 02, 2009 5:29 AM
I hate nice men.
... this blog wasn't really for me, was it? :D
Gidrea Lightsky
The Galaxy According to Gidrea
date Posted: Jun 02, 2009 7:23 AM
... this blog wasn't really for me, was it? :D
Not this time, dear... unless you've developed an irrisistible urge to kiss Anakin and need to be slapped out of it!
The Viridian Saber
Virtual Unrealities (A victim of Order 66.)
date Posted: Jun 02, 2009 1:43 PM
Or being away makes him think with the proper brain.
What about the Tusken Raider camp? :^O
Gidrea Lightsky
The Galaxy According to Gidrea
date Posted: Jun 02, 2009 2:27 PM
What about the Tusken Raider camp?
We're talking about CW Anakin... try to keep up!!!! :^O
The Viridian Saber
Virtual Unrealities (A victim of Order 66.)
date Posted: Jun 02, 2009 3:58 PM
We're talking about CW Anakin... try to keep up!!!!
Sorry...You know I'm kinda slow...;)
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